That's probably app sandboxing: "An app distributed outside the Mac App Store runs from a randomized path when it is launched..."
from http://krypted.com/mac-security/app-translocation-services-os-x-10-12/ http://krypted.com/mac-security/app-translocation-services-os-x-10-12/
Funny that the strings loaded for the text file are changed, though.
On Sep 26, 2018, at 12:00 PM, pd-dev-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
Just found the following very perplexing directories listed by Pd’s “About Pd” window. I re-downloaded 0.48-2 and saw a similar listing. The paths are accurate and can be navigated in the terminal. This appears to be the result of macOS AppTranslocation, and probably a headache to deal with, but I can’t imagine that this display is useful to users in its current state:
Pd 0.49.0
A real-time graphical programming environment for live interactive computer music, Pd works on Linux, Apple macOS, and Microsoft Windows.
Pd is copyrighted, but is free for you to use for any reasonable purpose. See the file: /private/var/folders/d7/m7ff94zn5tb7x7m7f_t4mkg40000gn/T/AppTranslocation/5F6B8661-189B-4614-B1FA-B54185D21D65/d/Pd-0.49-0.app/Contents/Resources/LICENSE.txt
Reference documentation for Pd lives in: /private/var/folders/d7/m7ff94zn5tb7x7m7f_t4mkg40000gn/T/AppTranslocation/5F6B8661-189B-4614-B1FA-B54185D21D65/d/Pd-0.49-0.app/Contents/Resources/doc/1.manual/index.htm or online: http://msp.ucsd.edu/Pd_documentation/ http://msp.ucsd.edu/Pd_documentation/
-------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
Short answer: move the app out of the Downloads folder
Long answer:
In testing, I see this is happening if you run the app form the Downloads folder. The OS keeps track of downloaded binaries and auto-sandboxes them, apparently, by opening them within a temporary image somwhere. When Pd starts up, sys_libdir is set using the current working directory and picks up this temp location. sys_libdir is then used to generate the paths in the About file. When you move the .app somewhere else, this sandboxing no longer happens and the About paths look correct.
On Sep 26, 2018, at 1:26 PM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
That's probably app sandboxing: "An app distributed outside the Mac App Store runs from a randomized path when it is launched..."
from http://krypted.com/mac-security/app-translocation-services-os-x-10-12/ http://krypted.com/mac-security/app-translocation-services-os-x-10-12/
Funny that the strings loaded for the text file are changed, though.
On Sep 26, 2018, at 12:00 PM, pd-dev-request@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-dev-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
Just found the following very perplexing directories listed by Pd’s “About Pd” window. I re-downloaded 0.48-2 and saw a similar listing. The paths are accurate and can be navigated in the terminal. This appears to be the result of macOS AppTranslocation, and probably a headache to deal with, but I can’t imagine that this display is useful to users in its current state:
Pd 0.49.0
A real-time graphical programming environment for live interactive computer music, Pd works on Linux, Apple macOS, and Microsoft Windows.
Pd is copyrighted, but is free for you to use for any reasonable purpose. See the file: /private/var/folders/d7/m7ff94zn5tb7x7m7f_t4mkg40000gn/T/AppTranslocation/5F6B8661-189B-4614-B1FA-B54185D21D65/d/Pd-0.49-0.app/Contents/Resources/LICENSE.txt
Reference documentation for Pd lives in: /private/var/folders/d7/m7ff94zn5tb7x7m7f_t4mkg40000gn/T/AppTranslocation/5F6B8661-189B-4614-B1FA-B54185D21D65/d/Pd-0.49-0.app/Contents/Resources/doc/1.manual/index.htm or online: http://msp.ucsd.edu/Pd_documentation/ http://msp.ucsd.edu/Pd_documentation/
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
-------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
Also, this happens irregardless of Pd version as it's OS behavior.
On Sep 26, 2018, at 1:35 PM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
Short answer: move the app out of the Downloads folder
Long answer:
In testing, I see this is happening if you run the app form the Downloads folder. The OS keeps track of downloaded binaries and auto-sandboxes them, apparently, by opening them within a temporary image somwhere. When Pd starts up, sys_libdir is set using the current working directory and picks up this temp location. sys_libdir is then used to generate the paths in the About file. When you move the .app somewhere else, this sandboxing no longer happens and the About paths look correct.
-------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
Pd isn’t in the Downloads folder, however. It’s where I’ve always kept my versions of Pd, in /Applications/Pd/
On Sep 26, 2018, at 4:35 AM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
Short answer: move the app out of the Downloads folder
Long answer:
In testing, I see this is happening if you run the app form the Downloads folder. The OS keeps track of downloaded binaries and auto-sandboxes them, apparently, by opening them within a temporary image somwhere. When Pd starts up, sys_libdir is set using the current working directory and picks up this temp location. sys_libdir is then used to generate the paths in the About file. When you move the .app somewhere else, this sandboxing no longer happens and the About paths look correct.
On Sep 26, 2018, at 1:26 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:
That's probably app sandboxing: "An app distributed outside the Mac App Store runs from a randomized path when it is launched..."
from http://krypted.com/mac-security/app-translocation-services-os-x-10-12/ http://krypted.com/mac-security/app-translocation-services-os-x-10-12/
Funny that the strings loaded for the text file are changed, though.
On Sep 26, 2018, at 12:00 PM, pd-dev-request@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-dev-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
Just found the following very perplexing directories listed by Pd’s “About Pd” window. I re-downloaded 0.48-2 and saw a similar listing. The paths are accurate and can be navigated in the terminal. This appears to be the result of macOS AppTranslocation, and probably a headache to deal with, but I can’t imagine that this display is useful to users in its current state:
Pd 0.49.0
A real-time graphical programming environment for live interactive computer music, Pd works on Linux, Apple macOS, and Microsoft Windows.
Pd is copyrighted, but is free for you to use for any reasonable purpose. See the file: /private/var/folders/d7/m7ff94zn5tb7x7m7f_t4mkg40000gn/T/AppTranslocation/5F6B8661-189B-4614-B1FA-B54185D21D65/d/Pd-0.49-0.app/Contents/Resources/LICENSE.txt
Reference documentation for Pd lives in: /private/var/folders/d7/m7ff94zn5tb7x7m7f_t4mkg40000gn/T/AppTranslocation/5F6B8661-189B-4614-B1FA-B54185D21D65/d/Pd-0.49-0.app/Contents/Resources/doc/1.manual/index.htm or online: http://msp.ucsd.edu/Pd_documentation/ http://msp.ucsd.edu/Pd_documentation/
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
The quarantine bit is still set, for some reason. It should be disabled once you allow running it and move it from Downloads. Try downloading another copy, running it, then moving out of Downloads.
enohp ym morf tnes ----------- Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
On Sep 26, 2018, at 7:34 PM, Kevin Haywood khaywood@ucsd.edu wrote:
Pd isn’t in the Downloads folder, however. It’s where I’ve always kept my versions of Pd, in /Applications/Pd/
On Sep 26, 2018, at 4:35 AM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
Short answer: move the app out of the Downloads folder
Long answer:
In testing, I see this is happening if you run the app form the Downloads folder. The OS keeps track of downloaded binaries and auto-sandboxes them, apparently, by opening them within a temporary image somwhere. When Pd starts up, sys_libdir is set using the current working directory and picks up this temp location. sys_libdir is then used to generate the paths in the About file. When you move the .app somewhere else, this sandboxing no longer happens and the About paths look correct.
On Sep 26, 2018, at 1:26 PM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
That's probably app sandboxing: "An app distributed outside the Mac App Store runs from a randomized path when it is launched..."
from http://krypted.com/mac-security/app-translocation-services-os-x-10-12/
Funny that the strings loaded for the text file are changed, though.
On Sep 26, 2018, at 12:00 PM, pd-dev-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
Just found the following very perplexing directories listed by Pd’s “About Pd” window. I re-downloaded 0.48-2 and saw a similar listing. The paths are accurate and can be navigated in the terminal. This appears to be the result of macOS AppTranslocation, and probably a headache to deal with, but I can’t imagine that this display is useful to users in its current state:
Pd 0.49.0
A real-time graphical programming environment for live interactive computer music, Pd works on Linux, Apple macOS, and Microsoft Windows.
Pd is copyrighted, but is free for you to use for any reasonable purpose. See the file: /private/var/folders/d7/m7ff94zn5tb7x7m7f_t4mkg40000gn/T/AppTranslocation/5F6B8661-189B-4614-B1FA-B54185D21D65/d/Pd-0.49-0.app/Contents/Resources/LICENSE.txt
Reference documentation for Pd lives in: /private/var/folders/d7/m7ff94zn5tb7x7m7f_t4mkg40000gn/T/AppTranslocation/5F6B8661-189B-4614-B1FA-B54185D21D65/d/Pd-0.49-0.app/Contents/Resources/doc/1.manual/index.htm or online: http://msp.ucsd.edu/Pd_documentation/
Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
Hmm, yes, now it works as expected, whether I run it first from Downloads or not. Not sure what was going on, but thank you.
Kevin
On Sep 26, 2018, at 10:46 AM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
The quarantine bit is still set, for some reason. It should be disabled once you allow running it and move it from Downloads. Try downloading another copy, running it, then moving out of Downloads.
enohp ym morf tnes
Dan Wilcox danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
On Sep 26, 2018, at 7:34 PM, Kevin Haywood <khaywood@ucsd.edu mailto:khaywood@ucsd.edu> wrote:
Pd isn’t in the Downloads folder, however. It’s where I’ve always kept my versions of Pd, in /Applications/Pd/
On Sep 26, 2018, at 4:35 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:
Short answer: move the app out of the Downloads folder
Long answer:
In testing, I see this is happening if you run the app form the Downloads folder. The OS keeps track of downloaded binaries and auto-sandboxes them, apparently, by opening them within a temporary image somwhere. When Pd starts up, sys_libdir is set using the current working directory and picks up this temp location. sys_libdir is then used to generate the paths in the About file. When you move the .app somewhere else, this sandboxing no longer happens and the About paths look correct.
On Sep 26, 2018, at 1:26 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:
That's probably app sandboxing: "An app distributed outside the Mac App Store runs from a randomized path when it is launched..."
from http://krypted.com/mac-security/app-translocation-services-os-x-10-12/ http://krypted.com/mac-security/app-translocation-services-os-x-10-12/
Funny that the strings loaded for the text file are changed, though.
On Sep 26, 2018, at 12:00 PM, pd-dev-request@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-dev-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
Just found the following very perplexing directories listed by Pd’s “About Pd” window. I re-downloaded 0.48-2 and saw a similar listing. The paths are accurate and can be navigated in the terminal. This appears to be the result of macOS AppTranslocation, and probably a headache to deal with, but I can’t imagine that this display is useful to users in its current state:
Pd 0.49.0
A real-time graphical programming environment for live interactive computer music, Pd works on Linux, Apple macOS, and Microsoft Windows.
Pd is copyrighted, but is free for you to use for any reasonable purpose. See the file: /private/var/folders/d7/m7ff94zn5tb7x7m7f_t4mkg40000gn/T/AppTranslocation/5F6B8661-189B-4614-B1FA-B54185D21D65/d/Pd-0.49-0.app/Contents/Resources/LICENSE.txt
Reference documentation for Pd lives in: /private/var/folders/d7/m7ff94zn5tb7x7m7f_t4mkg40000gn/T/AppTranslocation/5F6B8661-189B-4614-B1FA-B54185D21D65/d/Pd-0.49-0.app/Contents/Resources/doc/1.manual/index.htm or online: http://msp.ucsd.edu/Pd_documentation/ http://msp.ucsd.edu/Pd_documentation/
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
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