Hello,

I'm coming from the GNU/Linux world, so I cannot reproduce it here.

AFAIK there's no special dependency on the version. I can run any of pd 0.49 / 0.51 with any of wish 8.5 / 8.6, which are independent packages here.

Maybe you could use a pre-built wish shell (I'm pretty sure there's a Wish.app containing tcl/tk for recent Mac OS)

Excerpt from s_inter.c:

char *wish_paths[11] = { [compiled hint], [home dir], "/Applications/Utilities/Wish.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish", "/Applications/Utilities/Wish Shell.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish Shell", "/Applications/Wish.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish", "/Applications/Wish Shell.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish Shell", "/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Resources/Wish.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish", "/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Resources/Wish Shell.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish Shell", "/System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Resources/Wish.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish", "/System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Resources/Wish Shell.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish Shell", "/usr/bin/wish" };

So looks like there are different versions supported.

You can even override that with -guicmd CLI option of the compiled C program like this:

cd [...]/pd-0.xx-x/ pd -guicmd true # (If "true" isn't available on Mac, use any other command which succeeds, e. g. echo ABC) # Ignore watchdog messages

Then you can find the open port - may help this https://apple.stackexchange.com/a/346992 (In pd 0.49 port is 5400. The number 5400 may increase, so if there's another puredata instance running, it's 5401, etc. In pd 0.51 it is chosen randomly, and there's no convenient way to get the number, and it's not even noted in Changelog)

And in another shell: cd [...]/pd-0.xx-x/ wish tcl/pd-gui.tcl 5400 # Instead of "wish" you my need to give the full path to your installed wish app, e. g. it could look like this: # /Applications/Wish.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish tcl/pd-gui.tcl 5400 # Use the actual port number, not 5400

Another aspect: the problems with rendering sound strange to me - do you have a firewall which delays local TCP connections? (Because pd uses one, and this needs to be free-of-delay)

Best Regards Jonas

On Fri, 23 Oct 2020 14:54:52 +0200 (CEST) Nicolas Danet nicolas.danet@free.fr wrote with subject "[PD-dev] What is Wish version of Pd?":

Hi,

Can you tell me which are the version of Wish that Pd currently uses by default on macOS? The "wish-shell.tgz" seems to be 8.6.10 but is it from SourceForge? Is it cloned from GitHub? Which branch in that case?

I ask because i have hard time to find a branch, a tag, a commit to build Spaghettis with. Most have some bugs, none seems to fully work. For instance the tip seems to have weird rendering when moving objects fast. And the previous i was using doesn't compile anymore on Catalina (10.15.7).

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