I was trying to think of a further biblical [moses] analogy, but I guess there is probably a [moses~] already.
Maybe [cross~] / [uncross~] ala Ghostbusters... "don't cross the streams"
On Jan 23, 2023, at 11:05 PM, pd-dev-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
Message: 2 Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 18:53:12 -0300 From: Alexandre Torres Porres <porres@gmail.com mailto:porres@gmail.com> To: Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu mailto:msp@ucsd.edu> Cc: Roman Haefeli <reduzent@gmail.com mailto:reduzent@gmail.com>, pd-dev@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-dev@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD-dev] pack~/unpack~ (was Re: multichannel signals, preliminary support) Message-ID: <CAEAsFmgjZmnQj9iApGMj7JnED96DdH9vx0B2DWps1sv2-zwEyA@mail.gmail.com mailto:CAEAsFmgjZmnQj9iApGMj7JnED96DdH9vx0B2DWps1sv2-zwEyA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
I find snake~ and unsafe~ a bit weird but amusing, I kinda like idea of typing that object name and read it in a patch
-------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
There was a snake in the Bible
On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 at 20:04 Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
I was trying to think of a further biblical [moses] analogy, but I guess there is probably a [moses~] already.
Maybe [cross~] / [uncross~] ala Ghostbusters... "don't cross the streams"
On Jan 23, 2023, at 11:05 PM, pd-dev-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
Message: 2 Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 18:53:12 -0300 From: Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com To: Miller Puckette msp@ucsd.edu Cc: Roman Haefeli reduzent@gmail.com, pd-dev@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD-dev] pack~/unpack~ (was Re: multichannel signals, preliminary support) Message-ID: CAEAsFmgjZmnQj9iApGMj7JnED96DdH9vx0B2DWps1sv2-zwEyA@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
I find snake~ and unsafe~ a bit weird but amusing, I kinda like idea of typing that object name and read it in a patch
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
So merging (hmm) some ideas from Fede and Dan, maybe "join~/split~", and a new tap~ object that allows you to pick channels out specifically. Then I think for example "clone osc~" might do OK for making an oscillator bank - assuming it turns out to be practical to send message-time lists to the frequency input. (Maybe that's someting clone should know how to do in other situations too).
still thinking about, for instance, "clone -" to make clones of an anonymous abstraction that you just edit into being live...
cheers Miller
On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 01:02:43AM +0100, Fede Camara Halac wrote:
<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Hi devs,<div><br></div><div>I can edge 2 cents towards, albeit boringly, join~ and split~ (or unjoin~)</div><div><br></div><div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Ps. I am very excited about multichannel signals coming into pd! Thanks for making that happen! </span></div><div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Best!</span></div><div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br></span></div><div><font color="#000000"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Fede</span></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br></span></font><div dir="ltr"><div>—</div>Dr. Federico Cámara Halac<div>Composer / Programmer / Sound Artist<br><div><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://fdch.ar__;!!Mih3wA!HLNtThNWUuXw9RpBcicQ3Mx1Spv0rOty-jEft1oMTi8ARl5KrwNXjoEl_XxoKTMAegcth1VNkKcE0uU$">https://fdch.ar</a></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On 24. Jan 2023, at 00:14, Alexandre Torres Porres <porres@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto">There was a snake in the Bible </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 at 20:04 Dan Wilcox <<a href="mailto:danomatika@gmail.com">danomatika@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">I was trying to think of a further biblical [moses] analogy, but I guess there is probably a [moses~] already.<div><br></div><div>Maybe [cross~] / [uncross~] ala Ghostbusters... "don't cross the streams"<br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jan 23, 2023, at 11:05 PM, <a href="mailto:pd-dev-request@lists.iem.at" target="_blank">pd-dev-request@lists.iem.at</a> wrote:</div><br><div><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">Message: 2</span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 18:53:12 -0300</span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">From: Alexandre Torres Porres <</span><a href="mailto:porres@gmail.com" style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">porres@gmail.com</a><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">></span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">To: Miller Puckette <</span><a href="mailto:msp@ucsd.edu" style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">msp@ucsd.edu</a><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">></span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">Cc: Roman Haefeli <</span><a href="mailto:reduzent@gmail.com" style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">reduzent@gmail.com</a><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">>,<span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular"> </span></span><a href="mailto:pd-dev@lists.iem.at" style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">pd-dev@lists.iem.at</a><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">Subject: Re: [PD-dev] pack~/unpack~ (was Re: multichannel signals,</span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"> </span><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">preliminary support)</span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">Message-ID:</span><br 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style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">CAEAsFmgjZmnQj9iApGMj7JnED96DdH9vx0B2DWps1sv2-zwEyA@mail.gmail.com</a><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">></span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"</span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">I find snake~ and unsafe~ a bit weird but amusing, I kinda like idea of</span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">typing that object name and read it in a patch</span></div></blockquote></div><br><div> <div 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damn, snake~/unsnake~ was a cool name :/ I guess I was the only fan though
Em seg., 23 de jan. de 2023 às 22:51, Miller Puckette via Pd-dev < pd-dev@lists.iem.at> escreveu:
So merging (hmm) some ideas from Fede and Dan, maybe "join~/split~", and a new tap~ object that allows you to pick channels out specifically. Then I think for example "clone osc~" might do OK for making an oscillator bank
assuming it turns out to be practical to send message-time lists to the frequency input. (Maybe that's someting clone should know how to do in other situations too).
still thinking about, for instance, "clone -" to make clones of an anonymous abstraction that you just edit into being live...
cheers Miller
On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 01:02:43AM +0100, Fede Camara Halac wrote:
<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html;
charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Hi devs,<div><br></div><div>I can edge 2 cents towards, albeit boringly, join~ and split~ (or unjoin~)</div><div><br></div><div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Ps. I am very excited about multichannel signals coming into pd! Thanks for making that happen! </span></div><div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Best!</span></div><div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br></span></div><div><font color="#000000"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Fede</span></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br></span></font><div dir="ltr"><div>—</div>Dr. Federico Cámara Halac<div>Composer / Programmer / Sound Artist<br><div><a href=" https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://fdch.ar__;!!Mih3wA!HLNtThNWUuXw9RpBcicQ3Mx1Spv0rOty-jEft1oMTi8ARl5KrwNXjoEl_XxoKTMAegcth1VNkKcE0uU$ ">https://fdch.ar</a></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On 24. Jan 2023, at 00:14, Alexandre Torres Porres & lt;porres@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto">There was a snake in the Bible </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 at 20:04 Dan Wilcox <<a href="mailto:danomatika@gmail.com">danomatika@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">I was trying to think of a further biblical [moses] analogy, but I guess there is probably a [moses~] already.<div><br></div><div>Maybe [cross~] / [uncross~] ala Ghostbusters... "don't cross the streams"<br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jan 23, 2023, at 11:05 PM, <a href="mailto: pd-dev-request@lists.iem.at" target="_blank">pd-dev-request@lists.iem.at</a> wrote:</div><br><div><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">Message: 2</span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 18:53:12 -0300</span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">From: Alexandre Torres Porres <</span><a href="mailto:porres@gmail.com" 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style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">To: Miller Puckette <</span><a href="mailto:msp@ucsd.edu" style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">msp@ucsd.edu</a><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">></span><br 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Isn't "mux~/demux~" closest to what's actually happening? when "joining" two signals, I wouldn't expect them to be running in parallel but being mixed together.
m.
On 24.01.23 02:50, Miller Puckette via Pd-dev wrote:
So merging (hmm) some ideas from Fede and Dan, maybe "join~/split~", and a new tap~ object that allows you to pick channels out specifically. Then I think for example "clone osc~" might do OK for making an oscillator bank - assuming it turns out to be practical to send message-time lists to the frequency input. (Maybe that's someting clone should know how to do in other situations too).
still thinking about, for instance, "clone -" to make clones of an anonymous abstraction that you just edit into being live...
cheers Miller
Isn't "mux~/demux~" closest to what's actually happening?
Unfortunately, these are also zexy objects ;-)
On 24.01.2023 11:52, Max wrote:
Isn't "mux~/demux~" closest to what's actually happening? when "joining" two signals, I wouldn't expect them to be running in parallel but being mixed together.
m.
On 24.01.23 02:50, Miller Puckette via Pd-dev wrote:
So merging (hmm) some ideas from Fede and Dan, maybe "join~/split~", and a new tap~ object that allows you to pick channels out specifically. Then I think for example "clone osc~" might do OK for making an oscillator bank - assuming it turns out to be practical to send message-time lists to the frequency input. (Maybe that's someting clone should know how to do in other situations too).
still thinking about, for instance, "clone -" to make clones of an anonymous abstraction that you just edit into being live...
cheers Miller
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OK... now I'm hesitating between "snake~ in", "snake~ out" and "snake~ tap" or "join~", "split~", and "tap~"...
Former is more colorful (and crowds the namespace less). Latter might be easier for non-native English speakers to deal with?
cheers Miller
On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 01:36:24AM +0100, Christof Ressi wrote:
Isn't "mux~/demux~" closest to what's actually happening?
Unfortunately, these are also zexy objects ;-)
On 24.01.2023 11:52, Max wrote:
Isn't "mux~/demux~" closest to what's actually happening? when "joining" two signals, I wouldn't expect them to be running in parallel but being mixed together.
m.
On 24.01.23 02:50, Miller Puckette via Pd-dev wrote:
So merging (hmm) some ideas from Fede and Dan, maybe "join~/split~", and a new tap~ object that allows you to pick channels out specifically. Then I think for example "clone osc~" might do OK for making an oscillator bank - assuming it turns out to be practical to send message-time lists to the frequency input. (Maybe that's someting clone should know how to do in other situations too).
still thinking about, for instance, "clone -" to make clones of an anonymous abstraction that you just edit into being live...
cheers Miller
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Yes, join/split would be translatable, whereas translating "snake" can be slippery. I do think it is amusing, btw, and slides nicely next to sigmund~ and moses.
In any case, I am really liking now that "snake~" feels like an object family, that refers to the kind of signal, and you can say things like "snake~ in", "snake~ out", or even "snake~ split", "snake~ join" , or further, "snake~ rotate/flip", "snake~ encode/decode"
On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 5:49 AM Miller Puckette via Pd-dev < pd-dev@lists.iem.at> wrote:
OK... now I'm hesitating between "snake~ in", "snake~ out" and "snake~ tap" or "join~", "split~", and "tap~"...
Former is more colorful (and crowds the namespace less). Latter might be easier for non-native English speakers to deal with?
cheers Miller
On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 01:36:24AM +0100, Christof Ressi wrote:
Isn't "mux~/demux~" closest to what's actually happening?
Unfortunately, these are also zexy objects ;-)
On 24.01.2023 11:52, Max wrote:
Isn't "mux~/demux~" closest to what's actually happening? when "joining" two signals, I wouldn't expect them to be running in parallel but being mixed together.
m.
On 24.01.23 02:50, Miller Puckette via Pd-dev wrote:
So merging (hmm) some ideas from Fede and Dan, maybe "join~/split~",
and
a new tap~ object that allows you to pick channels out specifically. Then I think for example "clone osc~" might do OK for making an oscillator bank - assuming it turns out to be practical to send message-time lists to
the
frequency input. (Maybe that's someting clone should know how to do in other situations too).
still thinking about, for instance, "clone -" to make clones of an anonymous abstraction that you just edit into being live...
cheers Miller
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In any case, I am really liking now that "snake~" feels like an object family
Me too! It is now clear that these objects are all releated.
"snake~ in", "snake~ out"
Actually, I would prefer [snake~ pack] and [snake~ unpack] because for me the meaning of "in" and "out" is ambigious. "pack" and "unpack", on the other hand, are pretty obvious.
Alternatively, we might just as well use [mc~ pack], [mc~ unpack], [mc~ split], etc. to save some keystrokes :-)
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Yes, join/split would be translatable, whereas translating "snake" can be slippery. I do think it is amusing, btw, and slides nicely next to sigmund~ and moses.
In any case, I am really liking now that "snake~" feels like an object family, that refers to the kind of signal, and you can say things like "snake~ in", "snake~ out", or even "snake~ split", "snake~ join" , or further, "snake~ rotate/flip", "snake~ encode/decode"
On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 5:49 AM Miller Puckette via Pd-dev pd-dev@lists.iem.at wrote:
OK... now I'm hesitating between "snake~ in", "snake~ out" and "snake~ tap" or "join~", "split~", and "tap~"... Former is more colorful (and crowds the namespace less). Latter might be easier for non-native English speakers to deal with? cheers Miller On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 01:36:24AM +0100, Christof Ressi wrote: > > Isn't "mux~/demux~" closest to what's actually happening? > Unfortunately, these are also zexy objects ;-) > > On 24.01.2023 11:52, Max wrote: > > Isn't "mux~/demux~" closest to what's actually happening? > > when "joining" two signals, I wouldn't expect them to be running in > > parallel but being mixed together. > > > > m. > > > > > > On 24.01.23 02:50, Miller Puckette via Pd-dev wrote: > > > So merging (hmm) some ideas from Fede and Dan, maybe "join~/split~", and > > > a new tap~ object that allows you to pick channels out > > > specifically. Then > > > I think for example "clone osc~" might do OK for making an > > > oscillator bank - > > > assuming it turns out to be practical to send message-time lists to the > > > frequency input. (Maybe that's someting clone should know how to do > > > in other > > > situations too). > > > > > > still thinking about, for instance, "clone -" to make clones of an > > > anonymous > > > abstraction that you just edit into being live... > > > > > > cheers > > > Miller > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pd-dev mailing list > > Pd-dev@lists.iem.at > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev__;!!Mih3wA!HryblqiKFNOUuYK6t8PJBkK26yPJYdgDiMv_z36_t9-4PQk9SJpBcxy7Jd13FSr1fRDVtVGBQd6WsA$ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-dev mailing list > Pd-dev@lists.iem.at > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev__;!!Mih3wA!HryblqiKFNOUuYK6t8PJBkK26yPJYdgDiMv_z36_t9-4PQk9SJpBcxy7Jd13FSr1fRDVtVGBQd6WsA$ _______________________________________________ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev-- Dr. Fede Camara Halac Composer / Programmer / Sound Artist fdch.ar https://fdch.ar
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I'm not sure if this dialog is anywhere near settled (I got lost in the tangle of medusa-like message threads), but here's a +1 for [snake~].
I like the [object~ method] convention and the unique object name fits well in Pd vernacular to my ears. It seems like there's room to tack on lots of helpful methods...[snake~ info] could give us the specs of a given connection.
On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 5:58 AM Christof Ressi info@christofressi.com wrote:
In any case, I am really liking now that "snake~" feels like an object family
Me too! It is now clear that these objects are all releated.
"snake~ in", "snake~ out"
Actually, I would prefer [snake~ pack] and [snake~ unpack] because for me the meaning of "in" and "out" is ambigious. "pack" and "unpack", on the other hand, are pretty obvious.
Alternatively, we might just as well use [mc~ pack], [mc~ unpack], [mc~ split], etc. to save some keystrokes :-)
Christof On 25.01.2023 11:48, Fede Cámara Halac wrote:
Yes, join/split would be translatable, whereas translating "snake" can be slippery. I do think it is amusing, btw, and slides nicely next to sigmund~ and moses.
In any case, I am really liking now that "snake~" feels like an object family, that refers to the kind of signal, and you can say things like "snake~ in", "snake~ out", or even "snake~ split", "snake~ join" , or further, "snake~ rotate/flip", "snake~ encode/decode"
On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 5:49 AM Miller Puckette via Pd-dev < pd-dev@lists.iem.at> wrote:
OK... now I'm hesitating between "snake~ in", "snake~ out" and "snake~ tap" or "join~", "split~", and "tap~"...
Former is more colorful (and crowds the namespace less). Latter might be easier for non-native English speakers to deal with?
cheers Miller
On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 01:36:24AM +0100, Christof Ressi wrote:
Isn't "mux~/demux~" closest to what's actually happening?
Unfortunately, these are also zexy objects ;-)
On 24.01.2023 11:52, Max wrote:
Isn't "mux~/demux~" closest to what's actually happening? when "joining" two signals, I wouldn't expect them to be running in parallel but being mixed together.
m.
On 24.01.23 02:50, Miller Puckette via Pd-dev wrote:
So merging (hmm) some ideas from Fede and Dan, maybe
"join~/split~", and
a new tap~ object that allows you to pick channels out specifically. Then I think for example "clone osc~" might do OK for making an oscillator bank - assuming it turns out to be practical to send message-time lists to
the
frequency input. (Maybe that's someting clone should know how to do in other situations too).
still thinking about, for instance, "clone -" to make clones of an anonymous abstraction that you just edit into being live...
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Em seg., 30 de jan. de 2023 às 12:43, William Brent william.brent@gmail.com escreveu:
I'm not sure if this dialog is anywhere near settled (I got lost in the tangle of medusa-like message threads), but here's a +1 for [snake~].
that's you, me, christof, matt and miller himself, so I guess we have a winner :)
I like the [object~ method] convention and the unique object name fits well in Pd vernacular to my ears. It seems like there's room to tack on lots of helpful methods...[snake~ info] could give us the specs of a given connection.
On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 5:58 AM Christof Ressi info@christofressi.com wrote:
In any case, I am really liking now that "snake~" feels like an object family
Me too! It is now clear that these objects are all releated.
"snake~ in", "snake~ out"
Actually, I would prefer [snake~ pack] and [snake~ unpack] because for me the meaning of "in" and "out" is ambigious. "pack" and "unpack", on the other hand, are pretty obvious.
Alternatively, we might just as well use [mc~ pack], [mc~ unpack], [mc~ split], etc. to save some keystrokes :-)
Christof On 25.01.2023 11:48, Fede Cámara Halac wrote:
Yes, join/split would be translatable, whereas translating "snake" can be slippery. I do think it is amusing, btw, and slides nicely next to sigmund~ and moses.
In any case, I am really liking now that "snake~" feels like an object family, that refers to the kind of signal, and you can say things like "snake~ in", "snake~ out", or even "snake~ split", "snake~ join" , or further, "snake~ rotate/flip", "snake~ encode/decode"
On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 5:49 AM Miller Puckette via Pd-dev < pd-dev@lists.iem.at> wrote:
OK... now I'm hesitating between "snake~ in", "snake~ out" and "snake~ tap" or "join~", "split~", and "tap~"...
Former is more colorful (and crowds the namespace less). Latter might be easier for non-native English speakers to deal with?
cheers Miller
On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 01:36:24AM +0100, Christof Ressi wrote:
Isn't "mux~/demux~" closest to what's actually happening?
Unfortunately, these are also zexy objects ;-)
On 24.01.2023 11:52, Max wrote:
Isn't "mux~/demux~" closest to what's actually happening? when "joining" two signals, I wouldn't expect them to be running in parallel but being mixed together.
m.
On 24.01.23 02:50, Miller Puckette via Pd-dev wrote:
So merging (hmm) some ideas from Fede and Dan, maybe
"join~/split~", and
a new tap~ object that allows you to pick channels out specifically. Then I think for example "clone osc~" might do OK for making an oscillator bank - assuming it turns out to be practical to send message-time lists
to the
frequency input. (Maybe that's someting clone should know how to
do
in other situations too).
still thinking about, for instance, "clone -" to make clones of an anonymous abstraction that you just edit into being live...
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Em qua., 25 de jan. de 2023 às 01:49, Miller Puckette via Pd-dev < pd-dev@lists.iem.at> escreveu:
OK... now I'm hesitating between "snake~ in", "snake~ out" and "snake~ tap" or "join~", "split~", and "tap~"...
Former is more colorful (and crowds the namespace less). Latter might be easier for non-native English speakers to deal with?
As a non-native speaker who teaches to lots of non-native speakers I don't see much of a problem... when people don't the word you have to explain anyway and if I have to explain about 'snake' I see the benefit of teaching how the multicable hardware is called in english.
By the way, fun fact, here in Brazil, instead of 'snake' we use 'medusa' :) I like the opportunity to also teach this term to local students who just deal with phones and computers and don't have studio/stage/P.A. experience.
cheers Miller
On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 01:36:24AM +0100, Christof Ressi wrote:
Isn't "mux~/demux~" closest to what's actually happening?
Unfortunately, these are also zexy objects ;-)
On 24.01.2023 11:52, Max wrote:
Isn't "mux~/demux~" closest to what's actually happening? when "joining" two signals, I wouldn't expect them to be running in parallel but being mixed together.
m.
On 24.01.23 02:50, Miller Puckette via Pd-dev wrote:
So merging (hmm) some ideas from Fede and Dan, maybe "join~/split~",
and
a new tap~ object that allows you to pick channels out specifically. Then I think for example "clone osc~" might do OK for making an oscillator bank - assuming it turns out to be practical to send message-time lists to
the
frequency input. (Maybe that's someting clone should know how to do in other situations too).
still thinking about, for instance, "clone -" to make clones of an anonymous abstraction that you just edit into being live...
cheers Miller
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