On Oct 30, 2007, at 5:20 PM, Steffen Juul wrote:
On 29/10/2007, at 16.10, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Since you are interested in the GUI, sounds like it would be best if you worked on that. For example, a real preferences pane with tabs on it would be really nice. I'll happily help you make that happen, if you interested. The Tcl/Tk part is not too hard to learn, you mostly avoid the Pd/Tcl oddness, so it would a good place to start. In Pd.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd.tk, check out: pdtk_path_dialog, pdtk_startup_dialog, pdtk_audio_dialog, pdtk_midi_dialog. For the most part, this is straight Tcl/Tk GUI building, which is quite similar to Java and other things.
It would be a challenge. But i'll look into it and see how it goes. It would for sure be a cool thing to add.
There are also, to my knowledge, some issues with scrolling and adding of scroll-bar at load time if the window is smaller then the patch. And sometimes the window is bigger then my screen which renders use problems as i can't even get to resize. ( -- This is partly due to the (lame) way the os x wm is designed but still a problematic issue from Pd point of view, imho. I don't know if this only happens on os x though.)
Yes, that would be a nice one to have fixed, but probably not a good one to start on... :)
Are all the other GUI patches in /packages/patches ported to work up against 0.40-3?
If not there are some (disable_close_confirm-0.39.2.patch, cmd- click_manipulates_GUIs-0.41.0-test03.patch, pd_autoscrollbars-0.40- pre.patch, pd_controls-anchor-fix-0.40-pre.patch) i'm particular willing to help with.
Everything in packages/patches is currently being applied to the nightly Pd-0.40.3-extended builds.
Also scrolling in the help browser, is that just a bonus of a newer Tcl/Tk version or is invoked by a patch somewhere?
I think that's just Tcl/Tk. Maybe there's a patch, I don't remember.
I just did some work on the key bindings in the panels. Return hits OK and Esc hits cancel in all the panels now. Plus Cmd/Ctrl- w closes all the windows, including the help browser, find panel, etc. Then I added the "Clear Pd window" option to the Edit menu. You can stick the attached pd.tk in the latest Pd-extended release to try these changes.
Thats great. Really useful features. Just as a note ctrl/cmd-w doesn't close the Font Bomb. Esc and Return doesn't have effect there either.
I just noticed that and fixed it. I'll make patches soon and add them to the auto-builds and patch tracker.
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