btw, i just committed a patch to the patch-tracker which allows you to disable the display of the object's name and arguments when doing gop. this allows you to call your abstraction (or subpatch) "my10pxwideslider" and still make it only 10px wide.
get it from http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1516869&gro... and report any problems.
if you're going to make any enhancements in pd's menu boxes, how about taking the chance to implement tab / s-tab to jump between fields in non-iem menus? that would be quite handful.
Joao