No, there's no 'main inlet' - it's suppressed (as in [pd] and a couple of
others).

cheers
M

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 09:56:30AM -0700, Alex wrote:
> Either way, isn't [clone] a built in object so can't it take messages _and_
> signals on its left inlet like [dac]? I guess maybe it sets up its inlets
> to be the same as the abstraction which doesn't allow for that.. [haven't
> looked at the guts].
>
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu> wrote:
>
> > Good idea ... I have to think about whether this is possible to do.  If
> > I could ake inlets that take both control and signal, then I could easily
> > fix clone~ to take control messages like "vis" from inlets of either type.
> >
> > Also that might be the way for me to fix a long-standing bug - float
> > messages
> > to signal subpatch inlets don't work.
> >
> > cheers
> > Miller
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 09:42:18AM -0700, Alex wrote:
> > > I'm on pd-0.47-1 binary downloaded from UCSD [mac 64-bit].
> > >
> > > I've created a clone of an abstraction that has the left inlet as a
> > signal
> > > inlet.. from the docs I'd expect I can send a |vis 5 1( message to that
> > > inlet and display the patch but I can't. If I create another inlet, to
> > the
> > > right of that inlet, which is a control inlet, I can send the vis message
> > > to that and my instance does pop up but it does seem to me that the |vis(
> > > message should always go into the left inlet to keep things consistent?
> > >
> > > I attached an example, leftsig_test.pd is the patch to open.
> > >
> > > BTW, this clone stuff is really making me wish we could have abstractions
> > > that take both a signal and control info on a single inlet [like dac and
> > > some other tilde objects].. I've created a wrapper around clone to play
> > > with cascading abstractions and it would be nice if I could have my
> > wrapper
> > > operate the same as I'm assuming clone should? I know there was
> > discussion
> > > before.. maybe [inlet~] could actually have 2 outlets, a signal outlet
> > and
> > > a control outlet?
> > >
> > > -Alex
> >
> >
> >
> >

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