Pd-dev May 2009

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[ pure-data-Bugs-1994404 ] crash when closing about dialog with selection
by SourceForge.net 29 May '09

29 May '09

Bugs item #1994404, was opened at 2008-06-15 14:25 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by maxn You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1994404&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: pd-extended Group: v0.41 >Status: Open >Resolution: Fixed Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: max (maxn) Assigned to: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Summary: crash when closing about dialog with selection Initial Comment: do the following to reproduce a crash (tested on os x, don't know about other systems) open pd navigate to menu -> Pd-extended -> About Pd... select some of the text close the window crash ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: max (maxn) Date: 2009-05-28 22:23 Message: intel - do you want me to do a screen capture of the process? it's fairly simple... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2009-05-28 16:32 Message: I've done it about 15 times, and haven't been able to make it crash. You on Intel or PowerPC? Can anyone else reproduce this? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: max (maxn) Date: 2009-05-28 15:52 Message: Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3 still has the issue, tested with os 10.5.7 just follow the instruction in the original bug report. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2009-05-28 15:38 Message: I haven't been able to reproduce it with Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc* on Mac OS X/Intel 10.5.6 then 10.5.7. Does it still happen for you? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: SourceForge Robot (sf-robot) Date: 2008-07-05 02:20 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1312539 Originator: NO This Tracker item was closed automatically by the system. It was previously set to a Pending status, and the original submitter did not respond within 14 days (the time period specified by the administrator of this Tracker). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2008-06-20 10:13 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=27104 Originator: NO Ok, I updated Tcl/Tk, and it seems to have fixed this for me. I am on Mac OS X 10.4.11/Intel running 0.40.3-extended-20080620 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1994404&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-1994404 ] crash when closing about dialog with selection
by SourceForge.net 28 May '09

28 May '09

Bugs item #1994404, was opened at 2008-06-15 10:25 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by eighthave You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1994404&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: pd-extended Group: v0.41 >Status: Pending >Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: max (maxn) Assigned to: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Summary: crash when closing about dialog with selection Initial Comment: do the following to reproduce a crash (tested on os x, don't know about other systems) open pd navigate to menu -> Pd-extended -> About Pd... select some of the text close the window crash ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2009-05-28 12:32 Message: I've done it about 15 times, and haven't been able to make it crash. You on Intel or PowerPC? Can anyone else reproduce this? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: max (maxn) Date: 2009-05-28 11:52 Message: Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3 still has the issue, tested with os 10.5.7 just follow the instruction in the original bug report. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2009-05-28 11:38 Message: I haven't been able to reproduce it with Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc* on Mac OS X/Intel 10.5.6 then 10.5.7. Does it still happen for you? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: SourceForge Robot (sf-robot) Date: 2008-07-04 22:20 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1312539 Originator: NO This Tracker item was closed automatically by the system. It was previously set to a Pending status, and the original submitter did not respond within 14 days (the time period specified by the administrator of this Tracker). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2008-06-20 06:13 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=27104 Originator: NO Ok, I updated Tcl/Tk, and it seems to have fixed this for me. I am on Mac OS X 10.4.11/Intel running 0.40.3-extended-20080620 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1994404&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-1994404 ] crash when closing about dialog with selection
by SourceForge.net 28 May '09

28 May '09

Bugs item #1994404, was opened at 2008-06-15 14:25 Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by maxn You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1994404&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: pd-extended >Group: v0.41 Status: Open Resolution: Fixed Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: max (maxn) Assigned to: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Summary: crash when closing about dialog with selection Initial Comment: do the following to reproduce a crash (tested on os x, don't know about other systems) open pd navigate to menu -> Pd-extended -> About Pd... select some of the text close the window crash ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: max (maxn) Date: 2009-05-28 15:52 Message: Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3 still has the issue, tested with os 10.5.7 just follow the instruction in the original bug report. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2009-05-28 15:38 Message: I haven't been able to reproduce it with Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc* on Mac OS X/Intel 10.5.6 then 10.5.7. Does it still happen for you? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: SourceForge Robot (sf-robot) Date: 2008-07-05 02:20 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1312539 Originator: NO This Tracker item was closed automatically by the system. It was previously set to a Pending status, and the original submitter did not respond within 14 days (the time period specified by the administrator of this Tracker). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2008-06-20 10:13 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=27104 Originator: NO Ok, I updated Tcl/Tk, and it seems to have fixed this for me. I am on Mac OS X 10.4.11/Intel running 0.40.3-extended-20080620 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1994404&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-1994404 ] crash when closing about dialog with selection
by SourceForge.net 28 May '09

28 May '09

Bugs item #1994404, was opened at 2008-06-15 14:25 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by maxn You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1994404&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: pd-extended Group: v0.40.2 >Status: Open Resolution: Fixed Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: max (maxn) Assigned to: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Summary: crash when closing about dialog with selection Initial Comment: do the following to reproduce a crash (tested on os x, don't know about other systems) open pd navigate to menu -> Pd-extended -> About Pd... select some of the text close the window crash ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: max (maxn) Date: 2009-05-28 15:52 Message: Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3 still has the issue, tested with os 10.5.7 just follow the instruction in the original bug report. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2009-05-28 15:38 Message: I haven't been able to reproduce it with Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc* on Mac OS X/Intel 10.5.6 then 10.5.7. Does it still happen for you? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: SourceForge Robot (sf-robot) Date: 2008-07-05 02:20 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1312539 Originator: NO This Tracker item was closed automatically by the system. It was previously set to a Pending status, and the original submitter did not respond within 14 days (the time period specified by the administrator of this Tracker). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2008-06-20 10:13 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=27104 Originator: NO Ok, I updated Tcl/Tk, and it seems to have fixed this for me. I am on Mac OS X 10.4.11/Intel running 0.40.3-extended-20080620 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1994404&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-2637417 ] When connecting to Jack mode, Pd freezes
by SourceForge.net 28 May '09

28 May '09

Bugs item #2637417, was opened at 2009-02-25 15:48 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by boonier You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=2637417&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: pd-extended Group: v0.41 Status: Pending Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: boonier (boonier) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: When connecting to Jack mode, Pd freezes Initial Comment: I've noticed a couple of bug with regard to Jack and the new test build of Pd extended: 1) When connecting to Jack mode, Pd freezes and has to be force quit. 2) Another problem I've noticed is with current release of 0.40.3 extended, is when Pd is not computing audio, cpu usage shoots up around 30% . This appears to happen when compute audio is first activated, then switched off. Switching on audio and cpu returns to nominal amount. This problem does not affect actual usage. Specs problems appear on: os 10.5.6 Intel 2.4 iMac os 10.4.11 PPC 1 ghz Jack OSX 0.81 thanks ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: boonier (boonier) Date: 2009-05-28 15:42 Message: Agreed, the freezing issue has been fixed for a while. I cannot reproduce this either. The 2nd issue still remains. I think that the CPU issue occurred around the same time, so they maybe related. thanks ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2009-05-28 15:32 Message: since there is another bug report about the CPU usage (https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=2791638&group_…), I renamed this one to be about the first part. Can you give steps to reproduce the freeze? I haven't seen this using Mac OS X/Intel 10.5.(6|7) and JackOSX 0.81 using Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidates. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Date: 2009-02-25 22:27 Message: THe latest version - 0.81 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2009-02-25 16:01 Message: which version of jackosx are you using? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=2637417&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-1994404 ] crash when closing about dialog with selection
by SourceForge.net 28 May '09

28 May '09

Bugs item #1994404, was opened at 2008-06-15 10:25 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by eighthave You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1994404&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: pd-extended Group: v0.40.2 >Status: Pending Resolution: Fixed Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: max (maxn) Assigned to: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Summary: crash when closing about dialog with selection Initial Comment: do the following to reproduce a crash (tested on os x, don't know about other systems) open pd navigate to menu -> Pd-extended -> About Pd... select some of the text close the window crash ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2009-05-28 11:38 Message: I haven't been able to reproduce it with Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc* on Mac OS X/Intel 10.5.6 then 10.5.7. Does it still happen for you? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: SourceForge Robot (sf-robot) Date: 2008-07-04 22:20 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1312539 Originator: NO This Tracker item was closed automatically by the system. It was previously set to a Pending status, and the original submitter did not respond within 14 days (the time period specified by the administrator of this Tracker). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2008-06-20 06:13 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=27104 Originator: NO Ok, I updated Tcl/Tk, and it seems to have fixed this for me. I am on Mac OS X 10.4.11/Intel running 0.40.3-extended-20080620 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1994404&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-2637417 ] When connecting to Jack mode, Pd freezes
by SourceForge.net 28 May '09

28 May '09

Bugs item #2637417, was opened at 2009-02-25 10:48 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by eighthave You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=2637417&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: pd-extended >Group: v0.41 >Status: Pending Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: boonier (boonier) >Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) >Summary: When connecting to Jack mode, Pd freezes Initial Comment: I've noticed a couple of bug with regard to Jack and the new test build of Pd extended: 1) When connecting to Jack mode, Pd freezes and has to be force quit. 2) Another problem I've noticed is with current release of 0.40.3 extended, is when Pd is not computing audio, cpu usage shoots up around 30% . This appears to happen when compute audio is first activated, then switched off. Switching on audio and cpu returns to nominal amount. This problem does not affect actual usage. Specs problems appear on: os 10.5.6 Intel 2.4 iMac os 10.4.11 PPC 1 ghz Jack OSX 0.81 thanks ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2009-05-28 11:32 Message: since there is another bug report about the CPU usage (https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=2791638&group_…), I renamed this one to be about the first part. Can you give steps to reproduce the freeze? I haven't seen this using Mac OS X/Intel 10.5.(6|7) and JackOSX 0.81 using Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidates. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Date: 2009-02-25 17:27 Message: THe latest version - 0.81 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2009-02-25 11:01 Message: which version of jackosx are you using? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=2637417&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-2791638 ] Jack OSX cpu load
by SourceForge.net 28 May '09

28 May '09

Bugs item #2791638, was opened at 2009-05-14 06:16 Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by eighthave You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=2791638&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. >Category: pd-extended >Group: v0.41 >Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: boonier (boonier) >Assigned to: IOhannes m zmlnig (zmoelnig) Summary: Jack OSX cpu load Initial Comment: In Jack mode, Blank empty patch Toggling Compute Audio on and then off results in cpu load jumping up to ~25% from a nominal 1%. Turn Compute Audio back on, and cpu drops back to nominal 1%. Tested on 2.4ghz iMac , OS 10.5.6. Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2009-05-28 11:25 Message: ------------------------------------------------------------------ 1. start jack server and attach Pd to it jackdmp 2.7% pd 1.7% - 21.6%, ml_set_interrupts_enabled, mach_kernel - 7.6%, __nanotime, libSystem.B.dylib - 6.2%, __memcpy, libSystem.B.dylib 5.6%, lo_unix_scall, mach_kernel ------------------------------------------------------------------ 2. then turn on Compute Audio jackdmp 4.2% pd 2.1% - 20.0%, ml_set_interrupts_enabled, mach_kernel 7.1%, lo_unix_scall, mach_kernel - 6.3%, __nanotime, libSystem.B.dylib - 4.0%, __memcpy, libSystem.B.dylib - 4.0%, __gettimeofday, libSystem.B.dylib - 2.8%, select$DARWIN_EXTSN$NOCANCEL, libSystem.B.dylib 2.2%, lo_alltraps, mach_kernel 2.0%, lo_mach_scall, mach_kernel ------------------------------------------------------------------ 3. turn off Compute Audio after its on jackdmp 4.2% pd 7.5-10.5% + 81.4%, __bzero, libSystem.B.dylib | + 80.9%, process, pd | | + 80.9%, Jack::JackClient::Execute(), Jackmp | | | + 80.9%, Jack::JackPosixThread::ThreadHandler(void*), Jackmp | | | | + 80.9%, _pthread_start, libSystem.B.dylib | | | | | 80.9%, thread_start, libSystem.B.dylib ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Date: 2009-05-18 16:04 Message: Ah, sorry, I misunderstood, I also get similar behavior using Pd version 0.41.4-extended-rc2. Using Jack, I get ~3% CPU when audio is ON and ~8% CPU when audio is OFF. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Date: 2009-05-18 05:56 Message: hi - sorry for delay hmm i don't understand why when Pd is runing in Jack mode and you switch audio off, why it would revert to a Portaudio state? I that what you are saying? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2009-05-14 12:24 Message: For me, Pd without Jack, i.e. just using coreaudio/portaudio, it will use 25% of my CPU just idling. That's a known issue. With Jack, it goes down to 5-7% at idle. So my guess is that the first time the 25% spike is caused by the same think. Is this causing any problems for you? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=2791638&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-2791638 ] Jack OSX cpu load
by SourceForge.net 28 May '09

28 May '09

Bugs item #2791638, was opened at 2009-05-14 06:16 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by eighthave You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=2791638&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: v0.42 Status: Pending Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: boonier (boonier) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Jack OSX cpu load Initial Comment: In Jack mode, Blank empty patch Toggling Compute Audio on and then off results in cpu load jumping up to ~25% from a nominal 1%. Turn Compute Audio back on, and cpu drops back to nominal 1%. Tested on 2.4ghz iMac , OS 10.5.6. Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2009-05-28 11:25 Message: ------------------------------------------------------------------ 1. start jack server and attach Pd to it jackdmp 2.7% pd 1.7% - 21.6%, ml_set_interrupts_enabled, mach_kernel - 7.6%, __nanotime, libSystem.B.dylib - 6.2%, __memcpy, libSystem.B.dylib 5.6%, lo_unix_scall, mach_kernel ------------------------------------------------------------------ 2. then turn on Compute Audio jackdmp 4.2% pd 2.1% - 20.0%, ml_set_interrupts_enabled, mach_kernel 7.1%, lo_unix_scall, mach_kernel - 6.3%, __nanotime, libSystem.B.dylib - 4.0%, __memcpy, libSystem.B.dylib - 4.0%, __gettimeofday, libSystem.B.dylib - 2.8%, select$DARWIN_EXTSN$NOCANCEL, libSystem.B.dylib 2.2%, lo_alltraps, mach_kernel 2.0%, lo_mach_scall, mach_kernel ------------------------------------------------------------------ 3. turn off Compute Audio after its on jackdmp 4.2% pd 7.5-10.5% + 81.4%, __bzero, libSystem.B.dylib | + 80.9%, process, pd | | + 80.9%, Jack::JackClient::Execute(), Jackmp | | | + 80.9%, Jack::JackPosixThread::ThreadHandler(void*), Jackmp | | | | + 80.9%, _pthread_start, libSystem.B.dylib | | | | | 80.9%, thread_start, libSystem.B.dylib ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Date: 2009-05-18 16:04 Message: Ah, sorry, I misunderstood, I also get similar behavior using Pd version 0.41.4-extended-rc2. Using Jack, I get ~3% CPU when audio is ON and ~8% CPU when audio is OFF. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Date: 2009-05-18 05:56 Message: hi - sorry for delay hmm i don't understand why when Pd is runing in Jack mode and you switch audio off, why it would revert to a Portaudio state? I that what you are saying? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2009-05-14 12:24 Message: For me, Pd without Jack, i.e. just using coreaudio/portaudio, it will use 25% of my CPU just idling. That's a known issue. With Jack, it goes down to 5-7% at idle. So my guess is that the first time the 25% spike is caused by the same think. Is this causing any problems for you? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=2791638&group_…

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Re: [PD-dev] ffmpeg with gcc 3.4
by Sergei Steshenko 28 May '09

28 May '09

--- On Thu, 5/28/09, Sergei Steshenko <sergstesh(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > From: Sergei Steshenko <sergstesh(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [PD-dev] ffmpeg with gcc 3.4 > To: "pd-dev List" <pd-dev(a)iem.at>, "Hans-Christoph Steiner" <hans(a)at.or.at> > Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 1:44 AM > > > --- On Tue, 5/19/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)at.or.at> > wrote: > > > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)at.or.at> > > Subject: [PD-dev] ffmpeg with gcc 3.4 > > To: "pd-dev List" <pd-dev(a)iem.at> > > Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 4:04 PM > > > > There is hope, we can still use MSYS's default gcc > 3.4.5 > > for building ffmpeg, making the MinGW build setup > much > > easier. Yes, its in japanese, but we can all > understand the > > universal language of "command line". > > > > http://feather.cocolog-nifty.com/weblog/2009/04/msys-mingw-gcc3.html > > > > Then again, it might be worthwhile to try the gcc 4 > called > > "Testing" > > > > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2435 > > > > .hc > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ > she > > said, hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose > to > > finish out another pink-collar temp pool day. - > > “Hijab Scene #2", by Mohja Kahf > > > > > > There are much more recent than the official MinGW 'gcc' > packages: > > http://www.tdragon.net/recentgcc/ > > There is another also one - cant find it at the moment. > > > Regards, > Sergei. > Found it: http://www.thisiscool.com/gcc_mingw.htm . Regards, Sergei.

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