Pd-dev February 2009

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[declare] bug (id 2251387)
by Roman Haefeli 26 Dec '09

26 Dec '09

hi everyone i once posted a bug to the tracker and it still appears to be there in version 0.42.3. since this bug is kind of viral, so that it corrupts patches invisibly and without being noticed by the author, and also since quite some of my own patches got affected by that bug, i would like to ask to raise the priority of this one. BEWARE: everyone, who was working on patches in 0.42.X, that contain abstractions containing [declare]'s is most likely affected, or i should rather say: infected. read the description here: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2251387&group_id=5… roman ___________________________________________________________ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de

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Proposals for object categories
by Luke Iannini 03 Mar '09

03 Mar '09

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:34 PM, João Pais <jmmmpais(a)googlemail.com> wrote: >>>> when pd-extended or the cvs will be ordered to have directory >>>> like : /math >>>> /audio/math >>>> /audio/effect >>>> /save >>>> /matrix >>>> > >> but i would prefer to organise this properly (i.e. not by developer but >> by functionality) >> >> for now, using flatspace is the only way i know to include code in >> pd-extended, i'll digg more when i'll get time. > > is something like this possible: each developer drops his stuff in svn in > the current structure, but when compiled all externals are divided into > categories (e.g. like the above named)? each developer has his own corner > to drop stuff, but he has to check to which category each object belongs > to, and they get distributed at compiling time. and, unchecked objects > don't get compiled. > > is this feasible/logic? it sounds logic to me, as f.e. my abstractions > cover a bit of everything: GUI, midi, audio, ... > > > Also, the amount of categories should be discussed, and probably on the > main list. I think that MP's original list isn't enough, and new > categories should be included (especially considering the amount and > diversity of objects in pd-ext). audio filters, generators, effects, ... I > can look at the pd-ext-list I've made and give a concrete suggestion in > the next days, if you want. > this discussion will be a bit chaotic, but it should go to the main > list/pdpedia. Yo, Perhaps an interesting way to approach this would be for each developer to hierarchize their own collection, and then we can find the common ground between them all. It also might be nice for everyone to claim a library and stand as its maintainer, as Frank has done for list-abs/ and Cyrille and HC have done for mapping/, etc. I've begun ds-gui/ to this effect... Best Luke And, here's an example from my own sfruit/ collection: gui/ (for extending, interacting with, or working around limitations of the IEMGUIs) ds-gui/ ds-abs/ keyboard/ hid/ color/ control/ (i'm guessing everyone has enough of these that we'll have to make this finer-grained) dialog/ (these are different manifestations of "dialog boxes" in Pd) gem/ OSC/ list-abs-extended/ (these are list-abs that require objects not in Pd-vanilla (a restriction laid down by Frank long ago for list-abs)) midi/ sequencing/ signal/ envelope/ mix/ oscillators/ os/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-dev mailing list > Pd-dev(a)iem.at > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev >

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structuring of pd objects (was: Re: stripping down Pd-extended's default libs)
by marius schebella 01 Mar '09

01 Mar '09

hi, (maybe this is of general interest for pd users?) speaking of lists, I once did a similar thing some years ago, collecting 2682 objects. the list is far away from being complete or up to date... http://www.parasitaere-kapazitaeten.net/files/GENERAL_ALL.csv_.txt marius. 2009/2/20 João Pais <jmmmpais(a)googlemail.com>: >> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> I definitely agree that we should have libraries organized based on a >> topic. There is nothing stopping anyone from doing this. There is >> tons of code that could be easily taking and stuck into new libraries >> organized around concepts. > > hmm, that matches with what I was proposing (still on a private level) for > the new categories of documentating pd-ext objects. although some people > might not like not having their objects in their personal folder, it would > really make information more easily to come by - fyi, I think in the latest > object list I've made, there are ~1200 externals (objects + abstractions). > > I would go to the extra step and and follow yves' suggestions try to ask > some developpers to change the names of some objects to avoid name clashes - > if that's possible anyway, after all these years of programming. > > I can't contribute with code because I can't code, but I can write mails and > give (sometimes good) ideas. To remind how big the task is, I attach here > the list of pd-ext objects I've done some months ago (as a first step to try > to get an updated documentation for pd-ext).

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How to pass indeterminate args to a thread
by B. Bogart 28 Feb '09

28 Feb '09

Hey all, I've got some simple threading code working, and it looks like that will fix my HUP issues with PD and my gphoto external. Problem I'm having is that I need to pass thread arguments as a pointer to a structure. Are there some PD types I can use to make this work? (A_GIMME?) Or do I need to make struct that holds the *argv argc stuff, pass that structure to the thread, and have it unpack the content? Also my code function that executes the thread does not wait for the threads to complete. What is the best way to make my object output a bang when the thread is complete? Any advice appreciated. Thanks, B.

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automated tests, where in SVN?
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 27 Feb '09

27 Feb '09

Hey all, I've written a little script to run patches as tests, and I'd like to set it up to automatically run all of the patches that are in a directory of SVN. Where shall we put such test patches in SVN? Here are a couple ideas off the top of my head: /tests 'tests' folder in the base dir of each library in SVN foo-test.pd anywhere in SVN. .hc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste

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Proposals for object categories: Wiki page
by João Pais 26 Feb '09

26 Feb '09

I think I managed to put all discussed data into the PdLibraries page. It would be good that the discussion would be accompanied of some concrete changes there - and probably by opening it to the main pd-list at some point? The list is at http://puredata.info/dev/PdLibraries JoÃ£o -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 jmmmpais(a)googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp

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pbank in build/src (aka "flatspace")
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 26 Feb '09

26 Feb '09

Hey Cyrille, I just noticed that you added pbank.c to the flatspace library. That whole 'flatspace' thing is kludge, and should be deprecated, IMHO and just left alone. So I think that it would be best to remove externals/ build/src/pbank.c. For new externals, I think they should first be distributed outside of Pd-extended until they are stable, then things they can be included as libraries. Also, the helpfile is named wrong, it should be pbank-help.pd, not help-pbank.pd. .hc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin

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[ pure-data-Bugs-2637417 ] 0.41.4 extended and Jack OS X problems
by SourceForge.net 25 Feb '09

25 Feb '09

Bugs item #2637417, was opened at 2009-02-25 15:48 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by nobody You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=2637417&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: pd-extended Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: boonier (boonier) Assigned to: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Summary: 0.41.4 extended and Jack OS X problems Initial Comment: I've noticed a couple of bug with regard to Jack and the new test build of Pd extended: 1) When connecting to Jack mode, Pd freezes and has to be force quit. 2) Another problem I've noticed is with current release of 0.40.3 extended, is when Pd is not computing audio, cpu usage shoots up around 30% . This appears to happen when compute audio is first activated, then switched off. Switching on audio and cpu returns to nominal amount. This problem does not affect actual usage. Specs problems appear on: os 10.5.6 Intel 2.4 iMac os 10.4.11 PPC 1 ghz Jack OSX 0.81 thanks ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Date: 2009-02-25 22:27 Message: THe latest version - 0.81 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2009-02-25 16:01 Message: which version of jackosx are you using? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=2637417&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-2583821 ] pow~ creation arg doesn't work on Windows
by SourceForge.net 25 Feb '09

25 Feb '09

Bugs item #2583821, was opened at 2009-02-10 05:36 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by nobody You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=2583821&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: v0.42.2 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 7 Private: No Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Assigned to: Miller Puckette (millerpuckette) Summary: pow~ creation arg doesn't work on Windows Initial Comment: providing a creation argument for pow~ doesn't work. pd-vanilla 0.42-4 on winxp -Jonathan #N canvas 412 274 450 300 12; #X floatatom 181 146 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X floatatom 271 144 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 181 115 snapshot~; #X obj 271 115 snapshot~; #X obj 49 68 metro 100; #X obj 271 60 pow~; #X obj 335 12 sig~ 4; #X obj 49 12 loadbang; #X obj 181 60 pow~ 4; #X obj 180 12 sig~ 2; #X msg 6 111 \; pd dsp 1; #X connect 2 0 0 0; #X connect 3 0 1 0; #X connect 4 0 2 0; #X connect 4 0 3 0; #X connect 5 0 3 0; #X connect 6 0 5 1; #X connect 7 0 4 0; #X connect 7 0 10 0; #X connect 8 0 2 0; #X connect 9 0 8 0; #X connect 9 0 5 0; ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Date: 2009-02-25 21:53 Message: the same holds for [log~] and [exp~], (0.42-4 on winxp) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2009-02-25 00:06 Message: This bug does not happen for me on Pd-0.42-4 on Mac OS X 10.5.6/Intel. But I can confirm it happens on Windows XP with Pd0.42-4 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=2583821&group_…

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[ pure-data-Patches-2638371 ] exp~ broken/fixed
by SourceForge.net 25 Feb '09

25 Feb '09

Patches item #2638371, was opened at 2009-02-25 20:41 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=2638371&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: exp~ broken/fixed Initial Comment: exp~ just copies it's input to it's output. this is because exp_tilde_perform in d_math.c does this: t_int *exp_tilde_perform(t_int *w) { t_sample *in1 = (t_sample *)(w[1]); t_sample *out = (t_sample *)(w[2]); int n = (int)(w[3]); while (n--) *out = exp(*in1); // out and in1 are never incremented return (w+4); } instead it should do this: t_int *exp_tilde_perform(t_int *w) { t_sample *in1 = (t_sample *)(w[1]); t_sample *out = (t_sample *)(w[2]); int n = (int)(w[3]); while (n--) { *out = exp(*in1); out++; in1++; } return (w+4); } please apply the attached patch to d_math.c -- karl yerkes ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=2638371&group_…

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