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how to look up whether a symbol already exists?
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

Is there anyway to check whether a symbol already exists? .hc ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- Mistrust authority - promote decentralization. - the hacker ethic

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[ pure-data-Bugs-1837651 ] "pdsend" broken
by SourceForge.net 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

Bugs item #1837651, was opened at 2007-11-24 11:33 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by eighthave You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1837651&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: pd-extended Group: v0.39.2 >Status: Closed >Resolution: Later Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig) Assigned to: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Summary: "pdsend" broken Initial Comment: in the latest and greatest pd-extended release (.tar.bz2!) on a debian system, the installed "pdsend" application crashes with "floating point exception". the version installed by debian's "puredata" package works just fine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2007-11-26 14:55 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=27104 Originator: NO I think the ALSA dependency is probably due to Pd just using one linking statement for everything. While this is imperfect behavior, it would probably mean redoing the Pd makefile. That needs doing for sure, but I don't think this case is the reason to do it. As for installing Pd-extended on Debian without replacing the 'puredata' package, you can uncompress a .deb using 'dpkg -x', then install it wherever you want. but then because of the way Pd finds its libs and docs, you'd have to run pd like: cd /path/to/my/extracted/pd-extended/bin ./pd ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig) Date: 2007-11-26 04:20 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=564396 Originator: YES i know kinda found out why the planetccrma package was installed: the user has a running and stable pd installed (as debian package "puredata"), and had no intention to swap this for a system they did not know at all (in terms of quality) so they tried to avoid the debian package which would potentially overwrite their installation (which it does not, but how would anybody know?) to chose the fc/ccrma precompiled binaries was certainly a bad decision (they seem to not have found the "source" package at first glance) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig) Date: 2007-11-26 04:16 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=564396 Originator: YES btw, i unpacked the ccrma-package on my debian machine (lenny/sid; 2.6.21-1-multimedia-486 on an amd64 in legacy mode) and pd-extended's pdsend did _not_ crash. nevertheless i noticed following: dependencies for my "vanilla" pdsend $ ldd /usr/bin/pdsend linux-gate.so.1 => (0xffffe000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7d8e000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7ef8000) dependencies for the "extended" pdsend $ ldd Pd-0.39.3-extended/bin/pdsend linux-gate.so.1 => (0xffffe000) libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7ee6000) libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0xb7ec0000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0xb7ea9000) libasound.so.2 => /usr/lib/libasound.so.2 (0xb7de2000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7c9a000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7f0c000) probably the problem lies with some of the (void) dependencies; why does pdsend need alsa? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig) Date: 2007-11-26 04:12 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=564396 Originator: YES see group: "v0.39.2" (which is btw is not fully correct as it is 0.39.3) the problem does not happen on my machine, so i cannot provide all the information needed :-) anyhow, here is what i know: pd : Pd-0.39.3-extended-planetccrma6-i386.tar.bz2 system: Linux version 2.6.18-5-686 (Debian 2.6.18.dfsg.1-13etch4) arch : ibm-notebook (i686); don't remember anything else don't ask me why the planetccrma-package was installed on a debian machine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2007-11-24 14:53 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=27104 Originator: NO Which version of Pd-extended? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1837651&group_…

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[ pure-data-Patches-1838621 ] setable [route], just like [select]
by SourceForge.net 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

Patches item #1838621, was opened at 2007-11-26 11:11 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=1838621&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: feature Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Cyrille Henry (nusmuk) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: setable [route], just like [select] Initial Comment: this patch allow [route] to react just like [select] : when route is create with 1 argument, a 2nd inlet is created in order to change this argument. this ca be very usefull, and the patch is very small. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=1838621&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-1837649 ] pd-extended's "make" does "make install"
by SourceForge.net 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

Bugs item #1837649, was opened at 2007-11-24 17:30 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by zmoelnig You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1837649&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: pd-extended Group: v0.39.2 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig) Assigned to: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Summary: pd-extended's "make" does "make install" Initial Comment: when doing a "make" in pd-extended (as root), will install everything to /usr/local/ this is _not_ what is usually expected: use "make install" when you want to install things with make. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig) Date: 2007-11-26 10:46 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=564396 Originator: YES oops, got the quotes wrong, this should be better: default: @echo 'you have to run "make install" to install pd-extended' ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig) Date: 2007-11-26 10:07 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=564396 Originator: YES a quick fix would be to just add these 2 lines to the very beginning of the Makefile: default: @echo 'you have to run "make install' to install pd-extended' ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig) Date: 2007-11-26 10:06 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=564396 Originator: YES ok, here are the steps to reproduce it: 1. get Pd-0.39.3-extended-planetccrma6-i386.tar.bz2 2. untar it 3. cd into the Pd-0.39.3-extended/ directory 4. become a privileged user (aka root) 5. run "make" 6. Pd-extended will install itself into /usr/local the README.txt says, that you have to run "make install" to install, not just "make" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2007-11-24 20:53 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=27104 Originator: NO Where are you running make? More details are needed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1837649&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-1837651 ] "pdsend" broken
by SourceForge.net 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

Bugs item #1837651, was opened at 2007-11-24 17:33 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by zmoelnig You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1837651&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: pd-extended Group: v0.39.2 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig) Assigned to: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Summary: "pdsend" broken Initial Comment: in the latest and greatest pd-extended release (.tar.bz2!) on a debian system, the installed "pdsend" application crashes with "floating point exception". the version installed by debian's "puredata" package works just fine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig) Date: 2007-11-26 10:20 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=564396 Originator: YES i know kinda found out why the planetccrma package was installed: the user has a running and stable pd installed (as debian package "puredata"), and had no intention to swap this for a system they did not know at all (in terms of quality) so they tried to avoid the debian package which would potentially overwrite their installation (which it does not, but how would anybody know?) to chose the fc/ccrma precompiled binaries was certainly a bad decision (they seem to not have found the "source" package at first glance) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig) Date: 2007-11-26 10:16 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=564396 Originator: YES btw, i unpacked the ccrma-package on my debian machine (lenny/sid; 2.6.21-1-multimedia-486 on an amd64 in legacy mode) and pd-extended's pdsend did _not_ crash. nevertheless i noticed following: dependencies for my "vanilla" pdsend $ ldd /usr/bin/pdsend linux-gate.so.1 => (0xffffe000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7d8e000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7ef8000) dependencies for the "extended" pdsend $ ldd Pd-0.39.3-extended/bin/pdsend linux-gate.so.1 => (0xffffe000) libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7ee6000) libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0xb7ec0000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0xb7ea9000) libasound.so.2 => /usr/lib/libasound.so.2 (0xb7de2000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7c9a000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7f0c000) probably the problem lies with some of the (void) dependencies; why does pdsend need alsa? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig) Date: 2007-11-26 10:12 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=564396 Originator: YES see group: "v0.39.2" (which is btw is not fully correct as it is 0.39.3) the problem does not happen on my machine, so i cannot provide all the information needed :-) anyhow, here is what i know: pd : Pd-0.39.3-extended-planetccrma6-i386.tar.bz2 system: Linux version 2.6.18-5-686 (Debian 2.6.18.dfsg.1-13etch4) arch : ibm-notebook (i686); don't remember anything else don't ask me why the planetccrma-package was installed on a debian machine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2007-11-24 20:53 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=27104 Originator: NO Which version of Pd-extended? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1837651&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-1837651 ] "pdsend" broken
by SourceForge.net 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

Bugs item #1837651, was opened at 2007-11-24 17:33 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by zmoelnig You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1837651&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: pd-extended Group: v0.39.2 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig) Assigned to: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Summary: "pdsend" broken Initial Comment: in the latest and greatest pd-extended release (.tar.bz2!) on a debian system, the installed "pdsend" application crashes with "floating point exception". the version installed by debian's "puredata" package works just fine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig) Date: 2007-11-26 10:16 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=564396 Originator: YES btw, i unpacked the ccrma-package on my debian machine (lenny/sid; 2.6.21-1-multimedia-486 on an amd64 in legacy mode) and pd-extended's pdsend did _not_ crash. nevertheless i noticed following: dependencies for my "vanilla" pdsend $ ldd /usr/bin/pdsend linux-gate.so.1 => (0xffffe000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7d8e000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7ef8000) dependencies for the "extended" pdsend $ ldd Pd-0.39.3-extended/bin/pdsend linux-gate.so.1 => (0xffffe000) libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7ee6000) libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0xb7ec0000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0xb7ea9000) libasound.so.2 => /usr/lib/libasound.so.2 (0xb7de2000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7c9a000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7f0c000) probably the problem lies with some of the (void) dependencies; why does pdsend need alsa? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig) Date: 2007-11-26 10:12 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=564396 Originator: YES see group: "v0.39.2" (which is btw is not fully correct as it is 0.39.3) the problem does not happen on my machine, so i cannot provide all the information needed :-) anyhow, here is what i know: pd : Pd-0.39.3-extended-planetccrma6-i386.tar.bz2 system: Linux version 2.6.18-5-686 (Debian 2.6.18.dfsg.1-13etch4) arch : ibm-notebook (i686); don't remember anything else don't ask me why the planetccrma-package was installed on a debian machine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2007-11-24 20:53 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=27104 Originator: NO Which version of Pd-extended? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1837651&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-1837651 ] "pdsend" broken
by SourceForge.net 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

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[ pure-data-Bugs-1837649 ] pd-extended's "make" does "make install"
by SourceForge.net 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

Bugs item #1837649, was opened at 2007-11-24 17:30 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by zmoelnig You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1837649&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: pd-extended Group: v0.39.2 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig) Assigned to: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Summary: pd-extended's "make" does "make install" Initial Comment: when doing a "make" in pd-extended (as root), will install everything to /usr/local/ this is _not_ what is usually expected: use "make install" when you want to install things with make. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig) Date: 2007-11-26 10:07 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=564396 Originator: YES a quick fix would be to just add these 2 lines to the very beginning of the Makefile: default: @echo 'you have to run "make install' to install pd-extended' ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig) Date: 2007-11-26 10:06 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=564396 Originator: YES ok, here are the steps to reproduce it: 1. get Pd-0.39.3-extended-planetccrma6-i386.tar.bz2 2. untar it 3. cd into the Pd-0.39.3-extended/ directory 4. become a privileged user (aka root) 5. run "make" 6. Pd-extended will install itself into /usr/local the README.txt says, that you have to run "make install" to install, not just "make" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2007-11-24 20:53 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=27104 Originator: NO Where are you running make? More details are needed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1837649&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-1837649 ] pd-extended's "make" does "make install"
by SourceForge.net 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

Bugs item #1837649, was opened at 2007-11-24 17:30 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by zmoelnig You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1837649&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: pd-extended Group: v0.39.2 Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig) Assigned to: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Summary: pd-extended's "make" does "make install" Initial Comment: when doing a "make" in pd-extended (as root), will install everything to /usr/local/ this is _not_ what is usually expected: use "make install" when you want to install things with make. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: IOhannes m zmölnig (zmoelnig) Date: 2007-11-26 10:06 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=564396 Originator: YES ok, here are the steps to reproduce it: 1. get Pd-0.39.3-extended-planetccrma6-i386.tar.bz2 2. untar it 3. cd into the Pd-0.39.3-extended/ directory 4. become a privileged user (aka root) 5. run "make" 6. Pd-extended will install itself into /usr/local the README.txt says, that you have to run "make install" to install, not just "make" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2007-11-24 20:53 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=27104 Originator: NO Where are you running make? More details are needed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1837649&group_…

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[ pure-data-Patches-1838468 ] made [print] display all arguments in its posts to pd window
by SourceForge.net 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

Patches item #1838468, was opened at 2007-11-26 00:57 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by eighthave You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=1838468&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: feature Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) >Assigned to: Miller Puckette (millerpuckette) Summary: made [print] display all arguments in its posts to pd window Initial Comment: Just like the subject says, I made [print] accept an A_GIMME, the arguments are then converted into a symbol, then that symbol is display as before. I suppose x->x_sym could be a char* instead. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2007-11-26 01:16 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=27104 Originator: NO http://pure-data.cvs.sourceforge.net/pure-data/pd/src/x_interface.c?r1=1.3&… File Added: made_print_post_all_arguments-0.40.3.patch ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2007-11-26 01:16 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=27104 Originator: NO http://pure-data.cvs.sourceforge.net/pure-data/pd/src/x_interface.c?r1=1.3&… ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=1838468&group_…

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