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[ pure-data-Bugs-1180148 ] silence when there's only output device
by SourceForge.net 10 Apr '05

10 Apr '05

Bugs item #1180148, was opened at 2005-04-10 11:14 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1180148&group_… Category: puredata Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Thomas Grill (xovo) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: silence when there's only output device Initial Comment: Currently, when there is no input device (but there is output, like on the Minimac), in the audio config dialog the input is enabled but the input device list is empty. In this situation there is no audio output either. Disabling the input helps - this should be the default when there is no input device. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1180148&group_…

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flext/vasp/py - was: Re: [PD] devel
by Thomas Grill 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

Hi Vincent, i'm CCing this to the list - i see no problem with that. I'm sorry for the compilation problems at the moment - it's bad timing since there's no mirroring of my own svn repository to SF at the moment - i hope to get it going as soon as possible. A few things need to be modified for successful compilation of flext(CVS)-based externals 1) in flsupport.h the following lines (starting at about line 145) need to be commented out typedef t_float Float; typedef t_int Int; typedef t_sample Sample; typedef const t_symbol *Symbol; typedef t_atom Atom; 2) in the py/pyext source files all occurrences of AtomListStatic need to be replaced with flext::AtomListStatic best greetings, Thomas Am 07.04.2005 um 13:33 schrieb vincent rioux: > hi Tim and Thomas, > many thanks for the autoconf Tim! > I understood that Guenter was not to happy about reporting pb of > compilations on debian systems so I am writing to you directly - i'll > try to post "successful" results however. > > Well, as for know i tried to recompile things i am interested in : > -------------------------------------------- > $ pd -version > Pd version 0.38.4 devel > compiled 13:07:11 Apr 7 2005 > > -------------------------------------------- > i updated my cvs externals repertory. > dyn~and pool compile fine but: > > $ pd -lib dyn~ -lib pool -stderr > > still gives: > > load_object: Symbol "dyn_tilde_setup" not found > dyn~: can't load library > load_object: Symbol "pool_setup" not found > pool: can't load library > > -------------------------------------------- > > py compilation gives: > > make -f ../flext/buildsys/gnumake-sub.mak PLATFORM=lnx RTSYS=pd > COMPILER=gcc BUILDPATH=../flext/buildsys/ PKGINFO=package.txt > BUILDCLASS=ext USRCONFIG=config.txt USRMAKE=build/gnumake-lnx-gcc.inc > TARGETMODE=release TARGETTYPE=multi THREADED=1 _build_ > make[1]: Entering directory `/root/puredata/externals/grill/py' > g++ -c -msse -mfpmath=sse -ffast-math -DNDEBUG -O3 -march=pentium4 > -pthread -fPIC -DPY_EXPORTS -DFLEXT_THREADS -DFLEXT_SYS=2 > -I/usr/include/python2.3 -I/root/puredata/pd/src > -I/usr/local/include/flext source/py.cpp -o > pd-linux/release-multi/py.opp > In file included from /usr/include/python2.3/Python.h:8, > from source/pyprefix.h:20, > from source/main.h:14, > from source/py.cpp:11: > /usr/include/python2.3/pyconfig.h:856:1: warning: "_POSIX_C_SOURCE" > redefined > In file included from /usr/include/pthread.h:18, > from /usr/local/include/flext/flext.h:41, > from source/pyprefix.h:15, > from source/main.h:14, > from source/py.cpp:11: > /usr/include/features.h:131:1: warning: this is the location of the > previous definition > source/py.cpp: In member function `virtual bool > pyobj::callpy(PyObject*, > PyObject*)': > source/py.cpp:334: error: request for member `AtomListStatic' is > ambiguous in > multiple inheritance lattice > /usr/local/include/flext/flsupport.h:664: error: candidates are: > template<int > PRE> class flext_multi::AtomListStatic > /usr/local/include/flext/flsupport.h:664: error: > template<int > PRE> class flext_multi::AtomListStatic > source/py.cpp:334: error: `rargs' undeclared (first use this function) > source/py.cpp:334: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only > once for > each function it appears in.) > make[1]: *** [pd-linux/release-multi/py.opp] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/puredata/externals/grill/py' > make: *** [build-release-multi] Error 2 > > > -------------------------------------------- > > best regards, > vincent > > > >

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pd interface questions
by mike2005＠acc.ocad.on.ca 06 Apr '05

06 Apr '05

The 0.38.3 version of pd is a much nicer install than the .37 version, especially on OS X because it keeps everything in one place inside a .app file that the end user simply double clicks to launch. The older version throws files all over the place. Thanks to those who did the work on this. There is a disadvantage to the new version though, in that it isn't possible to search for pd objects using the standard OS find utility because it can't search inside of .app files. I can open the .app but I can't search it. This could be solved by integrating a search function into pd itself. As a new user it is difficult to find objects and their documentation without the ability to search. Is this a suggestion worthy of developer attention? Also because the "5 Reference" section contains listings which all start with "help-" you must type at least six characters before you can get to the point in the menu where you want be. If they were structured like the following it would be easier to get around: acoustics-help.pd Where do I find help-fiddle~.pd? It isn't in the "5 Reference" section of the help menu where I would expect to find it. In fact I cannot find any reference to fiddle in any of the help menus, yet I can make the object and control click to get the help. As a new user I don't understand the logic of the help menu. Mike -- _________-_________-_________-_________-_________-_________-__________ ___________________________ A micro-controller platform that will / \ A I D \ allow artworks to interact with people ( /\/ ) Art Interface Device ) and the physical environment. GPL'ed \___/_______________________/ http://aid.interaccess.org _________-_________-_________-_________-_________-_________-__________

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compilation of Pyext
by Thomas goepfer 05 Apr '05

05 Apr '05

Hi ! I'm a bad user of pyext... sorry... ! I succefully compiled and installed flext, but I have an error when I compile pyext (the CVS version): source/py.cpp: In member function `virtual bool pyobj::callpy(PyObject*, PyObject*)': source/py.cpp:334 error: request for member `AtomListStatic' is ambiguous in multiple inheritance lattice /usr/local/include/flext/flsupport.h:664: error: candidates are: template<int PRE> class flext_multi::AtomListStatic /usr/local/include/flext/flsupport.h:664: error: template<int PRE> class flext_multi::AtomListStatic source/py.cpp:334: error: `rargs' undeclared (first use this function) source/py.cpp:334: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in.) In line 334 in py.cpp, I have this: AtomListStatic<16> rargs; And this line seems bugged (for my gcc !...) How can I resolve it ? Thanks !

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ranlib has no symbols on a compilation of flext with OSX
by Thomas goepfer 05 Apr '05

05 Apr '05

Hi ! I have a little error when I compile flext (flext-0.4.7-pd-osx.tgz) for macosX: at the end of the compilation, I have this: """.... mv /Users/thomas/Desktop/memoire/flext/installation/lib*.dylib /usr/local/lib ranlib /Users/thomas/Desktop/memoire/flext/installation/*.a # have to rerun ranlib at install dir ?! ranlib: file: /Users/thomas/Desktop/memoire/flext/installation/libflext.a(flthr.o) has no symbols """ (I changed the directory /usr/local/lib/pd/flext to /Users/thomas/Desktop/memoire/flext/installation because I thought the problem is a problem of root access) Why ranlib has no symbols ? How can I resolve this problem ? Thanks !

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[ pure-data-Bugs-1176416 ] Prefs and Help Menus don't work until a window is opened
by SourceForge.net 04 Apr '05

04 Apr '05

Bugs item #1176416, was opened at 2005-04-04 11:01 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by eighthave You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1176416&group_… Category: puredata Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 6 Submitted By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Assigned to: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Summary: Prefs and Help Menus don't work until a window is opened Initial Comment: On Mac OS X, when you start Pd.app, the Preferences and the Help menus do not open at all. In order to get them to open, you need to open a new window or open a patch. Then the menus work fine whether or not any windows are open. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2005-04-04 11:03 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=27104 I forgot to mention that this happens on 0.38-3. Under Windows, this does not happen. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1176416&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-1176416 ] Prefs and Help Menus don't work until a window is opened
by SourceForge.net 04 Apr '05

04 Apr '05

Bugs item #1176416, was opened at 2005-04-04 11:01 Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by eighthave You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1176416&group_… Category: puredata Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 6 Submitted By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) >Assigned to: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Summary: Prefs and Help Menus don't work until a window is opened Initial Comment: On Mac OS X, when you start Pd.app, the Preferences and the Help menus do not open at all. In order to get them to open, you need to open a new window or open a patch. Then the menus work fine whether or not any windows are open. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1176416&group_…

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[ pure-data-Bugs-1176416 ] Prefs and Help Menus don't work until a window is opened
by SourceForge.net 04 Apr '05

04 Apr '05

Bugs item #1176416, was opened at 2005-04-04 11:01 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1176416&group_… Category: puredata Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 6 Submitted By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Prefs and Help Menus don't work until a window is opened Initial Comment: On Mac OS X, when you start Pd.app, the Preferences and the Help menus do not open at all. In order to get them to open, you need to open a new window or open a patch. Then the menus work fine whether or not any windows are open. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478070&aid=1176416&group_…

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Testing if a Darwin Framework is present
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 03 Apr '05

03 Apr '05

Has anyone found a good and/or standard way to test if a Framework is present using autoconf? I'd like to use this for Tcl/Tk when building the Pd.app. .hc ________________________________________________________________________ ____ http://at.or.at/hans/

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Re: [PD-dev] pd interface questions
by Burt 03 Apr '05

03 Apr '05

Actually, in my OS X installer I did change quite a few of the help files to *.help (at least the ones in 5.reference). In fact, it's quite easy to do because there are plenty of scripts out there to take care of removing the prepended "help-", removing the appended ".pd", and appending "-help.pd". You can find scripts in /Library/Scripts/Finder Scripts. You can do a batch job to every file that starts with "help-" in a directory. It makes converting these files really easy. sb Message: 1 Cc: pd-dev(a)iem.at From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)eds.org> Subject: Re: [PD-dev] pd interface questions Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 12:54:24 -0500 To: mike2005(a)acc.ocad.on.ca On Mar 30, 2005, at 1:42 PM, mike2005(a)acc.ocad.on.ca wrote: >> The 0.38.3 version of pd is a much nicer install than the .37 version, >> especially on OS X because it keeps everything in one place inside a >> .app file that the end user simply double clicks to launch. The older >> version throws files all over the place. Thanks to those who did the >> work on this. >> >> There is a disadvantage to the new version though, in that it isn't >> possible to search for pd objects using the standard OS find utility >> because it can't search inside of .app files. I can open the .app but >> I can't search it. This could be solved by integrating a search >> function into pd itself. As a new user it is difficult to find objects >> and their documentation without the ability to search. >> >> Is this a suggestion worthy of developer attention? Very much so, and has been a hot topic with developers recently. Check the Pd-dev IRC meeting logs for more info: http://puredata.org/community/IRC >> >> Also because the "5 Reference" section contains listings which all >> start >> with "help-" you must type at least six characters before you can get >> to >> the point in the menu where you want be. If they were structured like >> the following it would be easier to get around: >> >> acoustics-help.pd >> >> Where do I find help-fiddle~.pd? It isn't in the "5 Reference" section >> of the help menu where I would expect to find it. In fact I cannot >> find any reference to fiddle in any of the help menus, yet I can make >> the object and control click to get the help. As a new user I don't >> understand the logic of the help menu. *-help.pd is the new standard. No one has done the grunt work of converting the old help-*.pd files to the new standard... .hc

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